WTF?
12 March 2008 | 2,527 viewsWTF, Lim Kit Siang?
While the long-drawn debate on who should be the Perak mentri besar finally came to an end today, an unexpected twist came in the form of DAP leader Lim Kit Siang who said that his party had not approved PAS’ Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin to lead the state.
“The decision to appoint a PAS assemblyperson Mohamad Nizar Jamaludin as Perak mentri besar has caused shock and consternation to DAP leaders, members and supporters,” he said in a brief statement today.
The statement came just hours after it was announced in Ipoh that the Regent of Perak has agreed on Nizar’s appointment.
… Lim also said that as such all DAP Perak assemblypersons would stay away from the swearing-in ceremony for Perak mentri besar scheduled tomorrow.
… Previously, [state DAP chairperson and Sitiawan state assemblyperson] Ngeh Khoo Ham had told reporters that all three parties would respect the decision of the sultan and cooperate to form the new state government. [Malaysiakini]
This is fucking stupid, innit?
Malays voted for DAP and Chinese and Indians voted for PAS. Can you understand that, motherfucker?
WE FUCKING VOTED YOU. WE. MELAYU, CINA, INDIA. VOTED YOU. PAS, PKR, DAP.
Do not for a minute even entertain the thought that DAP won seats in this election solely because of itself.
Do not betray the people’s trust and destroy their hopes.
Do not, because if you do, I will make it a point on this blog to kick your ass so hard, every single day till the next elections, that you will wish you had lost on Saturday.
All of you from the DAP, PKR and PAS better fucking understand that.
God help me, I will kick your ass.
78 Responses to “WTF?”
1 esyarmz 12 March 2008 @ 11:30 pm
agreed aiseh..
was quite upset with this…
a simple mathematics… without PAS there’s no DAP govt in Perak..
I think being a profesional and western educated, the new MB will not be fanatics as afraid by DAP..
give him a chance will u..
as a malay and moslem, i voted for your side..
Like what your son said la… our destiny is the same…
2 avoter 12 March 2008 @ 11:39 pm
I”m livid too. And BN can gloat too tomorrow.
3 etthepig 13 March 2008 @ 12:05 am
I fully agree with you. I was really upset with LKS’s statement when I heard about it.
Please ask them to do their bickering in their bedroom and not to drag it out and flog it in public.
STUPID STUPID STUPID UNCLE KIT…
4 G 13 March 2008 @ 12:17 am
Dissapointing isn’t it? I think LKS was too overwhelmed with the election results that he forgots the real agenda and the real power behind DAP’s success – It’s not about DAP, PKR or PAS but about us, the rakyats…
The moment he acts biadaply to the sultan, he should already know the outcome of 2012 election… You can screw UMNO all you want, but not the sultan… and especially not Raja Nazrin!
5 lucid 13 March 2008 @ 12:20 am
I hardly ever swear, but this evening I must have spewed out at least 3 kontena-loads of expletives. How could anyone be soooooo amazingly stupid? I thought they have sorted the matter and was just waiting for the Sultan’s final say. Now the C4? Next we might hear BN gets back control of Perak, cos they r the biggest winner, even if without simple majority.
If the DAP don’t snap out of this, I’ll gladly help you bash them. And yes, PKR and PAS, too .. please don’t let us down.
Many of us Malays are considered “traitors” when we vote for DAP. But we did it anyway. Didn’t you hear what Nazri (of UMNO) said? “Those who voted for the DAP must take responsibility bla bla bla…” Please don’t let Nazri be right …..
What’s all this abt Malaysian Malaysia? PAS fellas not Malaysian?
6 kent 13 March 2008 @ 12:22 am
I bet Kit will do a “Po Kuan” aka cili padi. A big U turn perhaps?
With PAS having 6 PKR 7 while DAP 18 seat, and constitution stating only muslim malay is a possible candidate (isn’t the constitution a bit outdated? Race/religion sole factor for best MB candidate? wtf?), i seriously think PKR is in the best position, considering the no. of seats won and effectiveness of government.
Let’s put it this way. Is it imaginable to put a DAP candidate as kedah MB or even kelantan MB considering the no. of seats won there?
Argument and logic aside, I dont give a damn who heads perak as long as the opposition can work as a cohesive force to offer us a genuine alternative government.
Only 2 equal and alternative government (BN vs BA), trying to outdo each other to serve the rakyat, can afford us the best governance. Up until 8 march, we dont even have a choice.
So please don’t rubbish all the good work up to date. Deliberate and whatnot. but dont give shit when the final decision is made.
7 unwanted citizen 13 March 2008 @ 12:24 am
Totally agree with you.
All politicians are deaf.
http://unwantedcitizen.blogspot.com/2008/03/warkah-untuk-barisan-rakyat.html
8 Hakkamui 13 March 2008 @ 12:52 am
Is he out of his mind? Is he out of his mind???
This power crazy guy should have been long gone. He knew both he and his son couldn’t have won if they were to contest in Melaka, they can’t even get the respect from their own DAP members, cause they are both power crazy!
Now, Kit Siang, wake up, please wake up. You are not even the majority, BN has got more seats than you lah!
9 yh 13 March 2008 @ 1:05 am
kit is shitting in pants coz he will b vilified in press tom if he nods. but what the fuck. mandate given for this coalition to rule. just go ahead and deliver. the rest will fall in place.
kit, JUST GO AHEAD AND STOP THIS BOYCOTT SHIT.
10 oldman 13 March 2008 @ 1:05 am
Dear Aisehman
I am an avid reader of your blogs. However, this is my first time submitting comments to any of the popular blogs that I have followed over the years.
For your info, I have passed my prime and to be exact I was born during the Japanese occupation. Beginning from the 70s I had always voted for the opposition in the hope that only they could bring our various races together.
As a person born and bred in Penang for half of my life, I have lived through 3 racial clashes (mainly between the Chinese and Malays) in Penang – the first one ,if I remember correctly, was in 1956. I remember then, a curfew was imposed from dusk to dawn and how I cried during one of those curfew evenings, when I missed one of the last evening buses, to get back to my kampong in Glugor, before the curfew starts. The next racial clash was the HARTAL riot in Penang in 1967. I was then studying in a college in KL. Of course the last one was the mother of all clashes – the May 13 1969 where even close friends became enemies
As a Penangite, I have learned to live with the Chinese and have accepted them just as I accept any Malay friends of mine. For your info in school we were outnumbered by the Chinese. At Free School where I studied there were only about eight or nine of us Malays (including the present Raja of Perlis, the former MB of Perlis Tan Sri Hamid Pawanteh) among about 150 Chinese students in Form 5. Even during that time, I for one had never had any adverse racial feeling towards the Chinese. Maybe because we were then a minority. Anyway ,even now, when we are the majority my feelings towards the Chinese and Indians have never faltered and I am now what I am 60 years ago.
Then came the stage when I began to understand the politics of this country. It was not that bad when the ruling coalition was known as the Alliance. Things started to change progressively and BN was formed. This to me was the end of racial harmony among us. UMNO started to outstretch its fangs and started to bite anyone who tried to come in their way, be it the Malays, Chinese or Indians.
Since then I never had faith in BN and turned to the opposition hoping that they could bring us together as what they have said in all the political campaigns prior any election.
Truly it was the happiest day in my life when the opposition grabbed 5 states including my beloved Penang and also denied the 2/3 BN majority in Parliment.
Then came the bombshell. Just couldn’t believe when I read Rocky’s blog and yours concerning the dissatisfaction of DAP over the appointment of a PAS representative as the new MB of Perak.
The decision of DAP concerning the appointment of the MB of Perak, really saddens me and I truly believe many others as well who have voted for the opposition. What has happened to your promises that we would no more be classified as Malays, Chinese or Indians but instead as MALAYSIANS.
To all the opposition parties now in power, please do not make me, my family and all the others who voted for you lose faith in you because if you fail, no one else would succeed in bringing us together. At this age I may not live long enough to suffer further and to see the sufferings of other fellow Malaysians. Those who really would suffer would be your children and their children’s children and so on and so on ……..
So THINK ABOUT IT.
11 Soh hai Lah 13 March 2008 @ 1:13 am
Hey I am a chinese. Can I join in the fun and kick DAP and LKS’s soh hai arse?
12 Jantan Kuat 13 March 2008 @ 1:33 am
You said it Aisehman. He’s talking from his ass and sounding like a chauvinist chinaman again. I thought it’s Malaysian Malaysia. After all they asked the Sultan of Perak to choose, have some faith in HRH, why is he shitting now. He’s afraid Hj Hadi going to ask the guy to turn Perak into an Islamic State with Hudud Law? I’m sure HRH won’t allow that, after all some say his favorite drink is Chivas Regal. If Kit didn’t take that back and continue to boycott, let’s bring him down.
Anyway, what happened to Shahidan? No news about Shahidan being appointed as MB yet in Perlis, do I sense a problem there? Of course no news in the local media
13 stevie 13 March 2008 @ 1:36 am
Kit ought to climb a fucking mountain to get some fucking perspective right.
DAP has only basic PR to do in order to be in the people’s good books for the next few years and now Kit fucked it all up.
He ought to apologize, and very quickly, to control the damage already done to the goodwill given.
What an inbecile and arrogant asshole.
14 Rudy 13 March 2008 @ 1:46 am
I am damn as hell fed up with this attitude. Tell me something I don;t know uncle Lim, What the f**k is happening.You owe it to us.I think the die is cast why change at the last minute unless…?
15 chez1978 13 March 2008 @ 1:51 am
Let me put this straight.
DAP and everyone else must remember that they are NOT a Chinese party. It rose to power on the Chinese and non-Malay ticket, true. However, the society in general is looking at it differently.
The five Opposition-led states represent an opportunity for Malaysians to see how things could be different. So far, all I see is more of the same. Lim Guan Eng made the right first few moves, but I can’t help thinking how many Malays would disagree with me. Nevertheless, Penang is an interesting State to watch.
The Malay federated states of Perak and Selangor, however, have slightly different State codes. Everyone is reminded of how the Constitution is supposed to work, and I still think it is a fantastic piece of work.
The reality is, DAP did not think it would garner a simple majority in Perak. It wasn’t diversified enough to put forth its own Malay candidate in the State, and now the party cannot have its second Chief Minister despite winning the most seats in the polls.
In Selangor, internal DAP politics is also another major issue waiting to implode.
In Kedah, the sole DAP representative is Chinese. It was left out in the State line-up despite Husam Musa’s earlier statement. PKR was blamed.
At this juncture, the political parties need to start channeling their resources into governance, while keeping the organizational unit intact. No Opposition party can afford to work alone at the moment, and no state assemblies can function without goodwill within the ranks. If they think that the highlight of their victory is dividing the spoils, the Opposition will be in for a shock.
The Opposition coalition has to learn to get its act together. Lim Kit Siang’s decision to boycott the swearing in of Mohamad Nizar only offered us a glimpse into the tension behind the scenes. The problem is, if the Opposition allows State level bickerings spill over to national party alliances, the BA is done for.
Please remember that the BA is in a unique opportunity to make a case to the people, not reinforcing past stereotypes of PAS-Islamic extremists, DAP-Chinese chauvinists and PKR-The non-UMNOputras.
The people are watching.
16 mizaki 13 March 2008 @ 1:52 am
Aisehman
Count me in. I’ll join you in kicking that SMF LKS ass.
17 joejak 13 March 2008 @ 2:03 am
Yes, fuck LKS. To hell with him, this is exactly the politician we do not want in this country. His head has got so big that he forgotten in 4 days how DAP has won big this time. It is worse than BN.
I just apologized to all my friends, relative and family that I have convinced them to vote wisely during this GE. Now they gonna fuck me, but i make sure i fuck this LKS kaw kaw before I got fuck by them.
I wish the Sultan of Perak wil appoint BN to be the state government as they have the majority seats. What is DAP, PKR and PAS, they are all different parties, obviously they can’t work together, don’t put the future of Perak in the hand of bunch of idiot like LKS…
18 Eric Chin 13 March 2008 @ 3:11 am
Did Lim really say that or is it part of the MSM spin? If he really said that, then it is a no-brainer. Strange for a seasoned politician of his calibre to utter such nonsense. We should not care about race or religion. If the candidate is honest, earnest and works for the betterment of all the people, he deserves our support. If Lim really said that, then he should retract it at once. My friends and I will support PAS, at least its leaders sound logical and fair.
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20 aku 13 March 2008 @ 8:08 am
Malay would never vote for DAP again. although DAP claim that they are multiracial party, the truth is they always represent the chinese pembangkang forever. what a sad end for a glimpse of hope
21 lung 13 March 2008 @ 8:32 am
I am pissed off, mad as hell, madder than I ever have been at BN. And I will more than kick his ass!!!
Step down LKS. Join Samy & the Gang. You are out of touch.
Before you do so, APOLOGISE to the Sultan & The RAKYAT.
I am even MORE pissed off at the top dogs in DAP. Meekly accepting a chauvinistic & deeply flawed directive. That’s BN culture.
I had enough of BN culture & I’ll be damned if I accept the same culture in an opposition party.
And that goes for any other party too. You guys better wake-up.
I SWEAR I will work even harder at unseating you guys than I have done for BN if you BETRAY the rakyat.
22 sah 13 March 2008 @ 8:35 am
Speaking objectively the concern may have been triggered by a long-standing perception that all power resides with the Executive (e.g. the MB’s office) so a PAS MB would have unbridled power to turn Perak into a PAS state. Not inconceivable, especially in the “executive can change constitution” mode.
The way to gradually do away with this is to re-look at the spirit of the Constitution (State & Federal, both) to devolve power to the legislative & judiciary so that there are more checks & balances.
It’s a long road, but do-able.
23 whispering9 13 March 2008 @ 8:47 am
You have my support on this! And don’t say we never give Opposition a chance.
24 yapchongyee 13 March 2008 @ 8:57 am
Mr Lim Kit Siang has been too lomg in politics and he has become demented from living too long; senile dementia I suspect.
I read some of the cemments and all of them have one sentiment in common, ie THE MOST IMPORATNT ACHIEVEMENT OF THIS ELECTION IS THE DAWN OF RACE POLITICS. Therefore why does Lim Kit Siang object to PAS nominee. Having said that Lim Kit Siang has no common sense because if DAP, PAS and PKR submitted 3 candidates for the Sultan’s approval then it must also mean that DAP has agreed to accept whomsoever the Sultam chooses. I can see how that little mind of Lim Kit Siang works, HE THINKS THAT BECAUSE DAP AND PKR HAVE THE MOST REPRESENTATIVES IN THE STATE ASSEMBLY, THEREFORE EITHER HAVE A RIGHT TO THE MB SHIP. That I am afraid is not correct because the coalition submitted 3 names and of these only one can become MB and that decision belongs to the Sultan.
There is no ground upon which Lim Kit Siang can gribe about. I read quite a few of the 500 plus comments on Malaysians unplugged and I have to make one very obvious and important observation and that is the TOTAL ABSENSE of any comment on the Sultan’s choice and why he had been unfair. I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT THIS OBVIOUS deficiency; I WANT TO CONGRATULATE HIS HIGHNESS FOR HIS OBVIOUS WISDOM FOR WHAT HE HAD ACHIEVED. Did any of you even asked yourselves why is it that His Highness did what appears to any ordinary person to be unfair ? None of you did! That shows how much you understood of the actions of His Highness. From my perspective I think it was sheer poetry. His Highness had just cast a stone into the pool and watch the ripples radiate in ever bigger circles.
I believe it was His Highness intention to expose the cracks in the rhetoric of those like Mr Lim Kit Siang and he achieved that by picking the least qualified and the one that will generate the most controversy, ie, PAS because they had the least claim to the job being the party with the least seats. It was so simple and it was so effective; it caused the UNITED FRONT TO CRUMPLE RIGHT THERE. Is that not sheer poetry ? I would like to say that Lim Kit Siang has proved himself to be too old for the job and he need to be replaced. I would like to remind Lim that wisdom is not always about how to achieve your objective by force; you need to also know what is POSSIBLE. Politics is all about perception, image and knowing what is possible. The Sultan has made his choice and no amount of force will change that.
Now that race politics is proven to be irrelevant, you Mr Lim too has become irrelevant and you should retire; 50 years as a politician is much too long, all those who went into politics like the Tengku, Tan Siew sin, Tun Sambantan etc. have gone to their makers and you Mr Lim should also go to your maker. Mr Lim you have fought for CHINESE RIGHTS for too long & now we do not want CHINESE RIGHTS, what we want today is MALAYSIAN RIGHTS OF FULL CITIZENSHIP. No more Chinese or Indian rights because there is only one RIGHT and that is the right to full Malaysian citizenship. This you have to understand is what all Malaysians what; not just Chinese rights; and by your own ignorance YOU WHO OPPOSE THE DECISION OF HIS HIGHNESS HAS BECOME A RACIST YOURSELF.
I read quite a few of the 500 plus comments on Malaysians unplugged and I have to make one very obvious and important observation and that is the TOTAL ABSENSE of any comment on the Sultan’s choice and why he had been unfair. I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT THIS OBVIOUS deficiency; I WANT TO CONGRATULATE HIS HIGHNESS FOR HIS OBVIOUS WISDOM FOR WHAT HE HAD ACHIEVED. Did any of you even asked yourselves why is it that His Highness did what appears to any ordinary person to be unfair ? None of you did! That shows how much you understood of the actions of His Highness. From my perspective I think it was sheer poetry. His Highness had just cast a stone into the pool and watch the ripples radiate in ever bigger circles.
I believe it was His Highness intention to expose the cracks in the rhetoric of those like Mr Lim Kit Siang and he achieved that by picking the least qualified and the one that will generate the most controversy, ie, PAS because they had the least claim to the job being the party with the least seats. It was so simple and it was so effective; it caused the UNITED FRONT TO CRUMPLE RIGHT THERE. Is that not sheer poetry ? I would like to say that Lim Kit Siang has proved himself to be too old for the job and he need to be replaced. I would like to remind Lim that wisdom is not always about how to achieve your objective by force; you need to also know what is POSSIBLE. Politics is all about perception, image and knowing what is possible. The Sultan has made his choice and no amount of force will change that.
Now that race politics is proven to be irrelevant, you Mr Lim too has become irrelevant and you should retire; 50 years as a politician is much too long, all those who went into politics like the Tengku, Tan Siew sin, Tun Sambantan etc. have gone to their makers and you Mr Lim should also go to your maker. Mr Lim you have fought for CHINESE RIGHTS for too long & now we do not want CHINESE RIGHTS, what we want today is MALAYSIAN RIGHTS OF FULL CITIZENSHIP. No more Chinese or Indian rights because there is only one RIGHT and that is the right to full Malaysian citizenship. This you have to understand is what all Malaysians what; not just Chinese rights; and by your own ignorance YOU WHO OPPOSE THE DECISION OF HIS HIGHNESS HAS BECOME A RACIST YOURSELF.
25 Gerald Khor 13 March 2008 @ 9:29 am
Subject: Strong disappointment on DAP’s decision over Perak Menteri Besar
From: Gerald Khor
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 08:32 AM
To: dap.malaysia@pobox.com; khleee@pc.jaring.my; creditcard@dapmalaysia.org; jeffooi.screenshots@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Strong disappointment on DAP’s decision over Perak Menteri Besar
To my beloved DAP leaders,
Hope this message get to your CEC members as well.
Why you want to sour the already fragile relationship with PAS, at a time where you can work towards strengthening it? PAS has shown willingness to discuss Barisan Rakyat and we rakyat is happy to see the formation of Barisan Rakyat to realize the dream of 2-party system, as long as it carry a mandate of secular state for Malaysia.
And why such a flip-flop? Where is DAP’s integrity? DAP Perak pledged to abide by Sultan of Perak’s choice of Menteri Besar just a day earlier. Why DAP CEC rejects it? Why not discuss this among PAS, PKR and DAP? Why does it has to go public, and in such high profile? You guys are not better than Pak Lah nor BN in handling such situation.
Your report card is already tainted. Go mend the fence now and take corrective action immediately.
regards,
Gerald Khor
ps: Don’t know which email address to use thus use whatever email addresses I know to hope to get my message across.
—– Original Message —-
From: Gerald Khor
To: dap.malaysia@pobox.com
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:11:39 AM
Subject: Strong disappointment on DAP’s decision over Perak Menteri Besar
Dear YB Karpal Singh, YB Lim Kit Siang, YB Lim Guan Eng,
As a supporter of DAP that believe strongly in “Malaysian’s Malaysia “, I wish to express my strong disappointment on DAP’s decision to disapprove Perak Sultan’s selection of the next Menteri Besar (from a PAS representative). At the very least, please respect the choice made by Sultan Azlan Shah.
We just witness a new era in Malaysia politics after 8th March that gave so much hope to the people of this lovely nation. The loose pact between DAP, PAS and PKR scored big win in GE2008. Please keep up the good work and strengthen the pact. In fact, you guys should just formalize the pact and form Barisan Rakyat as suggested by many concerned Malaysians. Chinese voted for PAS and Malay voted for DAP on 8th March. I personally called my family members to make sure they vote no BN candidates. It is time that DAP seriously consider formalizing a pact with PAS and PKR. PAS seems to come a long way and is becoming more moderate. A pact should be made if PAS can drop their mandate to form an Islamic country.
Please don’t let this pact break away because of selection of Perak Menteri Besar. It is no doubt an important post but the next General Election will be even more important. The bigger task for DAP, PAS and PKR is to prove to the rakyat that you guys can be good government, starting with showing good results in Kedah, Kelantan, Penang, Perak and Selangor. It is a bad start to score an “E” for this fiasco. Furthermore PAS has given its words to work closely with the coalition government in Perak, and DAP has more seats and have been promised the most EXCO members. Give and take will go a long way for this young coalition.
I am a Chinese from Taiping and I have no problem seeing a PAS representative as Perak’s Menteri Besar, as long as there is no Islamic rules (as yet) like those in Kelantan. Given the Constitutional constraints and the state’s demographics, it is fair to have a Malay State Assemblyman to be appointed as Menteri Besar with a Chinese and Indian Naib Menteri Besar representing the other two major races.
The rakyat is still trying to grasp with the new scene in Malaysia politics. For me hailing from Perak, I know it is not easy for the Chinese in Perak to accept a PAS rep as Menteri Besar but we are ready to give him a chance to perform. People voted him (and his coalition government) in this time round. People can vote him out the next time. And we hope DAP will put national interest before party to give this man a chance to perform with his comrades in the Perak State Assembly as well.
If DAP cannot resolve this fiasco properly, all the manifestos and promises given pre-election will not be relevant anymore. Walk-the-talk. Integrity is everything. Otherwise DAP is no different from any BN component parties. And I will regret very much the thousands of dollar donation I made to DAP Malaysia in Jan and Feb 2008.
Thank you for your attention.
regards,
Gerald Khor
ps: http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/4246/1/ has a lot more feedback for your attention.
ps: Somehow http://dapmalaysia.org/newenglish/feedback.htm does not work properly thus a direct email.
26 lucia 13 March 2008 @ 9:36 am
although i disagree that LKS should not boycott the swearing in of the MB of perak, i feel it is not fair to attack LKS as such.
it’s easy for you people being ordinary citizen and sitting in the comfort of your living room/office to shoot off so much ammunition at LKS but before that, you should try to put yourself in his place and see how he might felt.
no. 1 – in kedah, PAS does not include the sole DAP candidate in the exco team
no. 2 – in perak, PAS has the least seats and yet a MB came from them.
no. 3 – MB should come from DAP by right if you look to them as having the most seats BUT because of the country’s (constitution?) a MB must be a malay. fine. no problem with that.
looking at these considerations, you must understand first why LKS reacted as he did… then your attack at him won’t be so serious… or some even abusive.
by all means, i do support the sultan’s appointment of the PAS candidate as MB, and i think LKS should support it too but i’m not going to be childish to attack LKS what with abusive (f) words and getting personal and all that. and to think just because of this one incident, suddenly everybody were saying they regret voting for DAP.
you regret LKS’a action all right… but to say you regret voting for DAP is kind of silly and childish. and we have one person who commented in another blog, that democracy is dead. what? just because of this one incident, you felt democracy is dead?
oh well, if we really want to talk about democracy, why should it be that the MB has to be a malay? it’s not that i prefer DAP ngeh to hold the MB post but i am questioning the… constitution?… saying the MB must be a malay. like that where got democracy? ok ok… and penang… why is it that the CM has to be a chinese? we are still racially divided here and the sad thing is this will not go away.
a person should be chosen for the post based on his calibre/characteristics not on his race! unfortunately you won’t see this happen in malaysia… even with barisan rakyat ruling.
27 hari 13 March 2008 @ 9:55 am
Is this what you refer to as “tersungkur di pintu syurga”.
28 walwalla 13 March 2008 @ 10:06 am
Politicians are all the same, whichever party they are from, are just SPINELESS SCUMS.
29 etthepig 13 March 2008 @ 10:24 am
After much consideration, these are my thoughts:
Why Uncle Kit stirred shit…
1. Uncle wants to test the grounds and see if others can accept PAS. If he shows his acceptance immediately, then BN has lots of mudslinging to do upon him.
If he accepts PAS as that is the voice of the people, he shows that he’s the greater man than BN (who really loves to play on racial issues).
Actually this whole fiasco shows that Malaysians are truly matured and able thinking persons. We really see each other as Malaysians and nothing about race nor religion.
Why the Regent/Sultan of Perak choose PAS…
2. The Sultan would like to start a precedent that the Sultans have the choice of their Menteri Besar instead of having it shoved down their throats.
My one cent worth of thought..
Uncle Kit, Sorry if I am rude earlier to you..
30 ctruth 13 March 2008 @ 10:29 am
LKS has apology on the matter on his blog
31 rocky 13 March 2008 @ 10:32 am
LKS has a phobia of PAS since he join them in 1999 and got whacked. and he may be playing bad cop good cop.
anyway I hope the DAP work with PAS and we the people have no issue with that. we did bloody vote for the BR coalition.
so LKS take a walk and come back to a new malaysia. we are more keen t see how you buggers govern that who get what. That is the important thing.
32 esyarmz 13 March 2008 @ 10:33 am
correct me if im wrong, but the reason why they didnt pick PKR is because the only available candidates in PKR lack paper qualification…
i believe in Ngeh…so LKS u should also believe in new MB…
33 KISS 13 March 2008 @ 10:35 am
This is not about race but about differences in party ideology. Having a PAS MB when they are the minority in the coalition will present problems going forward for the coalition. I think LKS is foreseeing this.
The PAS MB will likely toe the party line. So if the PAS MB say he will continue with the NEP (like his counterpart in kedah) – how? DAP and PKR to support? Will you guys cry traitor if they do? If they don’t then the crack will be exploited. If the MB tries to implement hudud? How again?
Please la people – it’s you guys who’s making it into a race based issue. LKS has stated clearly he can accept a PKR candidate – who is a Malay.
34 tigerjoe 13 March 2008 @ 10:44 am
I am pointing and laughing at the “Barisan Rakyat”. Clearly the committee who sought to rely on Raja Nazrin waiving the requirements set out in the constitution of the State of Perak did not consider that the man may choose to take the mickey out of BR. Just because he can. LOL
I would also point out 3 things to Comrade Lucia (see comment #26):
1. PAS Kedah decision to not invite a DAP rep into the state exco was already reciprocated in Penang.
2. Your “Barisan Rakyat” submitted three names for Raja Nazrin to choose one MB. Which he has now done.
3. Which party the MB should come from is not a question of seats, but a matter for the state ruler to decide. Your “by right” argument does not hold water, as the State Constitution already addresses this matter.
Aisehman – is it not somewhat ironic that your blog posts of 11 and 12 March are essentially polar opposites? LOL
35 Neil 13 March 2008 @ 10:56 am
Like everyone here, i was really shocked to read LKS issuing the statement asking the CEC to boycott the swearing in event in protest.
I dunno wat is he protesting also. After the election i tot they announce they forgo the right to be MB? Then the 3 party submitted names to be choosen by the Sultan. After the Sultan chose the one from PAS, he starts jumping for no obvious reasons given.
If u asked me, i would have given the post to the PKR cause they won the most seats overall and currently is heading Selangor while DAP is heading Penang and PAS is heading Kelantan and Kedah. Giving each party even opportunities to run states their own way can help gauge the effectiveness of each’s policies.
But i disagree with making this big Hoo Haa after agreeing to let the Sultan choose. Settle it behind closed door. Is it such a big issue tat your “little brother” (during campaigning anyway) be the head? Aren’t you in this together and all decisions are made together? Is it tat the being the MB PAS will make all the decision themselves? You still have the most seats during making decisions dun you think u can oppose anything tat is against your ideal “malaysian Malaysia”?
Talking about a Malaysia for Malaysians, i m begining to see from our fellow Malays point of view now. No wonder your party is being preceived as a Chinese Party just like PAS is considered a Malay party. You all won this election because you all agreed to be one. Seperated you could never acheive wat you have achieved on March 8.
Keep this up and you will know why. Good luck. You have seen how easy it is for the new generations of Malaysia to switch and try new things. Dun be surprise if they switch back once BN employ the strategy of “we know of our past mistakes and we are willing to change. Give us a chance”. By tat time it would be like choosing the lesser of the 2 evils and u might never know if we will give them a chance like we have given you this chance tat u screw up at lighting speed. Hope you can redeem yourself by doing something good for the next 4-5 years. And i dun just aim this at DAP………….
36 KakiAyam 13 March 2008 @ 11:05 am
“…a person should be chosen for the post based on his calibre/characteristics not on his race! unfortunately you won’t see this happen in malaysia… even with barisan rakyat ruling…”
Lucia, you don’t engage the first gear right after accelerating using the Reverse gear, especially when we have been going in the reverse path for such a long time. We need to slow down and stop completely before engaging the first. And even after engaging on the first, we should take a good look at what lies ahead, and avoid unnecessary obstacles…
While the ideal way is to be able to switch both gear as and when we want to, in reality, we cannot do that. By insisting on doing so would result in gear and engine damage.
Similarly, we should not asked for drastic changes. Merit based selection will come, but not at this rate.
IMHO, LKS deserves to be criticised simply because he has dissapointed many, including those within DAP.
By the way, are there any prove that says the new Perak CM lacks the capability to be a good CM? Until LKS provides evidence to back up his statement, we shall discredit him for using race as the yardstick in selecting the new CM…
For the betterment of DAP and the future of the country, we should call for the retirement of LKS from active politics.
37 Neil 13 March 2008 @ 11:08 am
Hmmm, think he suddenly realise how serious a crisis he is creating by firing off his motor mouth. Well, first step at recovery :-
“My three-paragraph statement at 7 pm last night that the DAP Central Executive Committee emergency meeting on 9th March had not given approval for a PAS Mentri Besar to head a Perak coalition state government was not made out of disrespect to the Perak Sultan and Regent both whom I have always held in the highest regard and I apologise for any offence caused. The statement was on the party position at the time.
There have been further discussions and developments on the matter in the hours after the statement. Announcements of the latest position will be made.”
Lim Kit Siang
38 Sally 13 March 2008 @ 11:23 am
Really dissapointed. I am a Malay. For the past 10 years (since reformasi days) I have urged my family, relatives, friends and whoever I met to dump BN. Urging Malays to vote for DAP etc. Suddenly this?
I swear for the next 10 years I will make it a point to campaign for Malays to dump DAP!!!
We will vote for PAS only. Other than PAS, all other parties can go and fly kites.
F*** *** LKS!
39 lucid 13 March 2008 @ 11:26 am
I’m truly relieved that Mr LKS has decided not to boycott the MB swearing-in ceremony. THANK YOU!
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/79736
If any party feels that the State Constitution (any state) regarding the MB post is outdated and unfair, then, stand united, be patient, when there is enough clout in the DUNs, go change it.
Who knows, maybe one day, the rakyat will be politically mature enough to accept any Malaysian PM, too.
But it’s going to be a long road for sure .. just have faith and stand united.
Again, TERIMA KASIH, DAP and Mr LKS.
40 kent 13 March 2008 @ 11:27 am
yeah! I am proven right again!
He did a “Po Kuan”, a U turn!
I understand Kit’s stance in appointing the smallest party in the coalition to be the head. But aiya no need sudden outburst ma. Show your dissappointment but dont throw spanner and merajuk.
Now the mainstream newspaper front-paged it. Can we quit being amatuerish and be a real politician?
41 KakiAyam 13 March 2008 @ 11:38 am
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/79736
I wonder if he should apologise to the general public, the chinese, malay….and especially to the Malaysia Malaysians. (just thinking aloud)
But a second read of the LKS earlier statement shows that LKS wrote from the point of view of being the head of DAP and not from a racist mindset. No where does he state that he wants a chinese to be an CM, it seems he disagreed on the PAS rep to be CM, not malay.
Well, i think i should ask him that question.
42 psc 13 March 2008 @ 11:38 am
if the d.a.p reps. dont attend the swearing ceremony.i will not vote for the d.a.p.again.we th e malays,chinese and indians voted for them,nowthey are up to their tricks isar we vote them out in the next elections.BOYCOTT THE THE D.A.P
43 Manickam 13 March 2008 @ 11:38 am
Apology to Perak Sultan and Regent – No offence intended
March 13th, 2008 (1 hour ago)
LIM KIT SIANG
My three-paragraph statement at 7 pm last night that the DAP Central Executive Committee emergency meeting on 9th March had not given approval for a PAS Mentri Besar to head a Perak coalition state government was not made out of disrespect to the Perak Sultan and Regent both whom I have always held in the highest regard and I apologise for any offence caused. The statement was on the party position at the time.
There have been further discussions and developments on the matter in the hours after the statement. Announcements of the latest position will be made.
44 gummibear 13 March 2008 @ 11:41 am
If you were PAS and having won the least number of seats in Perak ADUN, would you have gladly accepted the nomination to become MB? Maybe both PAS and DAP are power crazy just like any politicians????
45 Jay 13 March 2008 @ 12:07 pm
Completely agree with you. Like Dr M, and a lot of people in Umno, LKS is a dinosaur and should go as well. The opposition may be better off with these people who still think they are living in the 1960s. If the Perak coalition falls and they go back to the people again, who do you think would win?
Best.
46 Gerubuk 13 March 2008 @ 12:30 pm
Whatever, DAP under LKS never did progress that much. He is too much of a chauvinistic bugger who sees with much difficulty through his blinkered glasses that he loses focus on essentials. DAP’s win this time around was via people’s power, people who are thoroughly discontented and angry at the arrogance of the incumbent BN shit-heads who bled us dry and continued to lie and cheat with impunity, making monkeys and bloody fools of us all!! Similarly with the PKR’s and PAS’ wins.
Don’t for a moment even think that they won on their own ideologies and loose manifestos. Hence, don’t crow like a dying cockerel after a good cock-fight!! You’ll be in my chicken curry soon enough…or even bloody satay you, for crying out loud.
Despite the apology tendered by LKS ( he acknowledges that he has caused unwarranted disrecpect to the sultan and regent of Perak by his artless statement last night ), I have utter contempt for him. He is as hypocritical and arrogant as his BN counterparts, and I have no doubt that he will not flinch at lining his own pockets at the rakyat’s expense, now that DAP is in a position to help govern a few state adminsitrations.
This is a man to be closely watched. This is a person whose words and deeds are to be closely monitored and viewed with deep suspicions. This is a man as dangerous as the dastardly infamous SIL whose FIL will go down in history as the most famous Bapa Mentua, unlike previous PMs who are know as Bapa Malaysia, Bapa Pembangunan, Bapa Kemajuan etc.
People, watch this man and his ilk who are no different from the ousted BN bangsats!!
47 Think Rasional 13 March 2008 @ 12:55 pm
Well My Friends.
Uncle Kit is already thinking 2012.
Remember Keng Yaik said the other day when Gerakan in Penang had less seats than UMNO. he practically has to beg from UMNO for CM seat in 99 because fearing backlash if DAP voilently protest against the seat go to UMNO.
Now if in Perak the CM not for DAP, how will he convience the Chinese voters in Penang and elsewhere when He told in 99, UMNO suqeeze Gerakan..Now who is squeeze DAP.
DAP must reliase what is POWER SHARING and not ego. This UMNO at least can be taken as gentleman partner but not DAP.
2012, DAP will be wipe out. The peoples who voted for DAP n BA including myself will be seeing more ture colours of certain leaders. Just wait and see how things will be going against them in the BA in next few years. Mark my word my friends.
48 daniel 13 March 2008 @ 12:55 pm
Agree with lucia. I think we were naive to think that decisions were going to be straightforward in the coalition ie. the party with the highest number of seats gets first bite.
This exposes the weakness in all. The DAP appears to be insensitive to the racial composition of the Perak people (but that was what we were trying overcome weren’t we; appointing capable people regardless of race, creed or religion. At least that was what I understood it to be.)BUT on the other hand many are still reluctant to let go of racial quotas or preference. Remember, this fiasco came about because of the question of which RACE gets to be appointed MB. LKS was naive to think that the Perak Royal House would waive the Malay-Muslim requirement in the Perak Constitution for the MB.
So, it looks that after taking a great stride forward, we are all slipping back to square one and mind you, it may not be entirely LKS’s fault.
49 Justice Bao 13 March 2008 @ 12:58 pm
Like everyone else, I was initially taken aback by LKS’s press statement. I too thought it was stupid, ill timed and badly handled. We might never really know what the real reasons are unless LKS reveals them.
But whatever, I can nunderstand many posters are angry with him and in the moment of anger thinks his move was motivated by any anti Malay reasons. I do not think this is the case as his statement clearly supported the appointment of the Malay candidate from PKR. Technically he is correct to ask why should the MB come from the smallest partner of the coalition. But all this could have been better handled with closed door discussions and the totally unnecessary show of defiance by his own state DAP team truning this whole matter into a laughing stock- precisely the type of infighting we hoped they will be able to rise above from.
50 lung 13 March 2008 @ 1:05 pm
I have say this again.
Lim Kit Siang – Step Down Now!!!
The damage is irrepairable. Stepping down will help heal & will set the tone for all.
For the sake of the country, it is the very least you can do.
Please do the responsible thing !!!
51 Ali 13 March 2008 @ 1:09 pm
ITS OFFICIAL ….
LIM KIT SIANG RECEIVED THE MOST “F**K YOU`S” IN A DAY THAN AAB IN FOUR YEARS…
APOLOGIZE , STEP DOWN AND ADVICE YOUR SON NOT TO FOLLOW YOUR STEP…
DO A BLOODY LAWATAN SAMBIL BEKERJA TO KELANTAN GOVERNMENT…YOU MORON…
APOLOGIZE SINCERELY OR YOU`LL BE KNOWN AS THE ONE WHO CREATE MANY MORE HISHAMUDDIN`S IN MALAYSIA…
WHERE IN THE HELL I`M GONNA PUT MY FACE AFTER TELLING ALL MY FRIENDS/FAMILY TO VOTE FOR ANY OPPOSITION BUT TO BE BETRAYED BY THIS GUY…
WELL I KNOW WHERE TO PUT MY MUKA TEBAL…BACK TO UMNO OF COURSE WHERE MANY MAJORITY OF MUKA TEBAL ARE THERE….THANK YOU LKS…
52 ctruth 13 March 2008 @ 1:24 pm
aisehman, you can remove my earlier post.
LKS should retire
53 Alan 13 March 2008 @ 1:31 pm
I beg to differ. Neither Raja Nazrin nor the Sultan is above the People’s choice. The DAP submitted two names for the opposition for consideration. The Raja was out of line by appointing someone who is not endorsed by the party which won the most seats in Perak. I wonder whether this is constitutional? …And can someone tell me what is so wrong for a malaysian to be MB of Perak even if he is of chinese heritage. Wake up all of you DAP and LKS bashers. We voted change and change frequently requires COURAGE.
54 manhon 13 March 2008 @ 2:52 pm
Its political gamesmanship. I am sure LKS knows what he is doing. And the issue here is not one of race (DAP accepts any PKR nominee).
KS is diffusing any chance the MCA can use this issue to scare the Chinese in Perak and around the country.
Just look out for the masterful damage control – how one simple statement followed by a simple apology a few hours later would render MCA without the capital to mount an attack on DAP for the next 4/5 years.
The next move is for the new PAS MB to come across as an efficient and fair leader and not a religious fanatic. Once this happens, BN’s scare tactics will ring hollow once and for all.
Stronger partnership (even merger of PKR_DAP_PAS) would acceptable and even welcome by all Malaysians.
BN versus BR is here to stay.
55 Jantan Kabaret 13 March 2008 @ 2:55 pm
From Harakah Daily
Pengalaman luas aset utama Nizar terajui Kerajaan Negeri Perak
Johari Jaafar
Thu | Mar 13, 08 | 12:46:32 pm MYT
Mengenali Menteri Besar Perak yang baru, Ir Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin, beliau dilahirkan pada 17 Mac 1957 di Kampung Air Hitam Labu, Kampar Perak. Beliau telah mendapat pendidikan awal di Kampar, kemudiaannya meneruskan persekolahan di Sekolah Menengah Anglo Chinese, Kampar.
Selepas itu menyambung pelajaranya di Sekolah Menengah Teknik, Persiaran Brash, Ipoh. Pada tahun 1972 beliau mengambil Advance Level (A Level) di Norwich City College Of Arts & Technology Norwich, Norfolk, England.
ImageBeliau merupakan lulusan Sarjana Muda Sains Kejuruteraan Mekanikal dari University Of Aston di Brimingham, United Kingdom. Sekembalinya ke tanahair, beliau bekerja di beberapa agensi kerajaan termasuk Jabatan Kerja Raya bahagian bengkel dan kuari, Perbadanan Pembangunan Bandar (UDA – Daya Urus), Perbadanan Pembangunan Pulau Pinang.
Beliau berpengalaman luas dalam menjalankan beberapa projek besar negara. Antaranya Projek Dayabumi fasa 2 & 3 pada tahun 1983, projek Pusat Islam (BAHES, Jabatan Perdana Menteri (1984), projek Wisma Darul Iman, Kuala Terengganu (1985), pengurusan bangunan-bangunan kerajaan dan swasta termasuk KOMTAR, Bangunan Persekutuan Gunasama, pusat membeli belah dan pengurusan semua lif di hospital Kerajaan Negeri Perak, Pulau Pinang, Kedah, Perlis sehingga kini.
Sebelum dilantik menjadi Menteri Besar beliau merupakan Pengarah Urusan di beberapa firma swasta. Di luar negara pula beliau banyak menjalankan beberapa projek di beberapa buah negara, antara di Birmingham, United Kingdom, Zug Switzerland, Miano Italy, Bangkok Thailand, Sdyney dan Goldcoast Australia, Doha Qatar dan Tehran, Iran.
Dalam bidang politik pula, beliau berkecimpung dengan PAS dengan memegang Ahli Jawatankuasa PAS kawasan Kampar (1999 – 2001). Beliau menjawat jawatan Yang Dipertua PAS kawasn Kampar (2001 hingga kini). Di peringkat PAS Negeri Perak, beliau memegang jawatan Bendahari PAS Negeri (2001- 2006), Setiausaha PAS Negeri (sebelum menjadi Menteri Besar Perak).
Walaupun beliau seorang yang berpendidikan tinggi tetapi beliau amat aktif dengan kegiatan masyarakat. Antaranya kuliah dan majlis ilmu di masjid-masjid dan surau-surau, ceramah motivasi pelajar dan institusi pengajian tinggi, menyampaikan khubah jumaat, bantuan kepada fakir miskin, mewakili PAS dalam program program kaum bukan Islam serta terlibat secara langsung dengan beberapa Badan Bukan Kerajaan (NGO).
Beliau mempunyai lapan orang cahaya mata hasil perkongsian hidup bersama isterinya, Fatimah Taat. Anaknya pertama merupakan lulusan BA Syariah Universiti Mut’ah, Jordan. Anak kedua pula lulusan hafiz al-Quran di Universiti Mut’ah Jordan. Anak yang ketiga juga lulusan hafiz al-Quran dari Universisiti Damsyik, Syria dan Universiti Lebanon. Manakala anak yang ke empat hingga ke lapan sedang belajar di beberapa pelbagai institusi pendidikan dalam negeri.
Menurut Setiausaha Kerja PAS Perak, Khalilul Abdul Rahman, Nizar merupakan seorang yang pemurah dan mudah bergaul dengan masyarakat dan mengambil berat masalah kakitangan di bawahnya. “Jika ada kakitangannya yang menghadapi masalah, beliau akan cepat menyekesaikan masalah temasuk masalah kewangan,” jelas Khalilul. “Sebagai ketua pejabat, beliau seorang yang peramah dengan orang ramai termasuk orang bawahannya dan beliau bersedia mendengar pandangan orang lain,” ujar beliau.
Memperjuangkan hak dan kepentingan rakyat menjadi agenda perjuangannya, kerana itu beliau bergiat cergas di dalam Badan Bukan Kerajaan (NGO). Umpamanya Gabongan Pengguna Air Perak (GPAP).
Keistimewaan beliau, walaupun lulusan dari luar negeri beliau mampu mengajar (buka kitab) di masjid-masjid dan suara-surau.malah beliau sendiri mampu mengelenggarakan ibadah kurban termasuk penyembelihan bintang kurban.
Di samping itu Haji Nizar juga selain boleh berbahasa Inggeris, ia juga boleh berbahasa Cina dan Tamil. Inilah Menteri Besar yang dikehendaki oleh rakyat, mampu mentadbir, berwibawa dan mempunyai pengetahuan agama dan boleh membaca khutbah jumaat. Perkenan Sultan Perak, Sultan Azlan Shah yang memilih Mohammad Nizar sebagai Menteri Besar Perak memang tepat, oleh itu semua pihak perlu akur dengan keputusan yang dibuat oleh Sultan Perak. – mr
Can anybody get me DAP`s and PKR`s Calon Menteri Besar CV?
56 Wargalama 13 March 2008 @ 3:14 pm
Since the 70’s GE I have voted BN all through but not the recently concluded GE where I voted DAP. I voted for BN not because I believe in them 100% but rather I had no choice then. BN seemed to be the most acceptable. To me DAP was pure Chinese racist party then.
But since Pak Lah took over, he was arrogant and the blunders he created together with his SIL was too much for me. Going through the blogs, especially Jeff Ooi etc give the impression that DAP is not that racist. And with the ‘formation’ of Barisan Rakyat, initiated by bloggers, I told myself to give it a try for the betterment of Malaysia, hence the vote for DAP. But now with the statement of LKS I am begining to regret my action. DAP is showing its arrogance by being blatantly disrespectful to the Sultan.
In 2004 BN landslide victory was due to the resignation of TDM and Pak Lah ‘Mr.Clean’image. But later when ‘Mr.Clean’ was found out to be very very dirty and arrogant, BN suffered heavy loses.
What happen now is the infant Barisan Rakyat is cracking as shown by LKS statement.Remember that on it’s own and without the other component parties of BR, DAP will remain in the opposition.
Do not let us equate LKS with Pak Lah for being arrogant. Voters are watching and just do not let the same BN fate occur to BR in the 13th GE. 5 years in not long. The swollen-head syndrome after winning extra seats must be kept under control.
57 lucia 13 March 2008 @ 3:49 pm
“All of you from the DAP, PKR and PAS better fucking understand that.”
ok time to hit out at PKR now, after you guys had hit out at LKS/DAP.
http://politics101malaysia.blogsome.com/2008/03/13/pkr-threatens-to-pull-out-of-perak-govt/
58 SP 13 March 2008 @ 4:41 pm
In all fairness to LKS, I don’t think he objected to a Malay MB in Perak. What he objected was that PAS which had the least number of seats in the state to head the govt. He did categorically say DAP was prepared to accept Jamaluddin Mohd Radzi as MB. So I don’t know how this could spin into a race issue.
59 clicheman 13 March 2008 @ 4:41 pm
LKS did not and does not and have a problem with a Malay as Perak MB. But many people seem to think that LKS is against having a Malay as MB. He was all for having a Perak PKR Malay MB. Like in Selangor. His objection was about having a PAS MB as PAS has the least number of seats in the state. So aisehman, does this distinction get him the off the hook? I’m sure that he understands very well that you can’t have your cake and eat it too. That sometimes in life one has to swallow pills that aren’t sweet at all. I’d say these are just teething problems with the new baby that is the BR. So let’s not throw out the baby with the bath water.
Warm regards,
clicheman
60 headhunter 13 March 2008 @ 5:54 pm
Me and many others who voted DAP/PKR/PAS are shocked by the stupidity of such an act. I am a Chinese and got no problem with a PAS MB. PAS still have a lot of supporters. Many Malays voted DAP and Chinese voted PAS/PKR. We are talking abt voting as Malaysians rather than race based and now this act of stupidity by LKS. Seems like he has no political savy. BN/MCA/MIC/Umno are laughing away. LKS should shut up and let the next generation do it. Remenber we voted you in and we will vote you out.
THINK MALAYSIAN, stupid!!
Our apologies to the Tuanku for the foolish old man’s silly act.
61 adnan 13 March 2008 @ 6:33 pm
Give the state back to BN. They won 26 seats. DAP won only 18. Whatever it is,in 3-4 years time, DAP can forget any votes from the Malays. DAP has taught us it’s not about justice, it’s not about fairness. It’s about… you lose we won. So be it. 4 years isn’t long.
62 kucheng 13 March 2008 @ 7:37 pm
padan muka korang sume…undi lg dap…hahahhaa
http://kucheng.myminicity.com/tra
63 disappointed 13 March 2008 @ 8:32 pm
Dear all,
I am very very very (to the power of infinity) disappointed of what’s happening to the so-called opposition coalition.
They say they are united to bring down BN. They won big. The rakyats are to thank for that. Right now it’s the rakyat that they are making a mockery off. ‘Ni pakat dok berebut situ berebut sini..’ this thing is not showing to us AN IOTA of proof that the opposition coalition is a united front.
The last-minute cancellation of the swearing in of Perak MB is the last straw. The opposition coalition to me right now is NO BETTER, even worse, than the BN they’re fighting against!
I am utterly disappointed. But I’ll keep praying that Malaysia is rid off power-starving politicians who can’t see beyond the boundaries of their own individual needs!
64 solidman 13 March 2008 @ 9:24 pm
I am a Chinese, but I do not think the winning of DAP is depands on chinese votes. Many Malays voted dap is because of PKR and PAS. The accpetance of a non-Bumi is too far fetch for Malay to accept. Please do not be SO ARROGANT to think that the Chinese-dominated party can make radical change. The DEB is good gor wealth distribution of all races. The Barisan Rakyat can put the DEB in right perspective by helping the poor in all races.
Think Barisan Rakyat. Do not be so radical. Think win win. If DAP continues to be so arrogance and stubborn, many votes will go to Barisan Nasional. o not forget that Anwar plays a major role in winning.
65 juslo 13 March 2008 @ 9:25 pm
i’m in 100% agreement with u, my friend.
i’m NO FAN of PAS, as u know, but this time, i have to say that the sultan’s decision must be accepted, n lim kit siang is outdated. this episode clearly exposed his racist thinking at the core.
if DAP was not prepared to accept a PAS MB, why jointly submit those 3 names for the sultan to decide in the first place??? DAP should have submitted only 2 names, DAP + PKR candidates, that’s all. since they have joined in the process, DAP should accept the decision. this reaction by LKS is most disappointing.
to me, if DAP had just accepted the decision without farce, everybody would have known WHO IS THE ‘RACIST’ in this process – i’m sorry to say, but it’s the PERAK SULTAN, who is not prepared to accept a non-muslim MB. (ok, maybe ‘racist’ is a strong word, bcos we dont know what was his actual reason for not appointing a non-muslim; but on the surface that’s a fair conclusion to make…)
i have always thought that if there is any1 of the sultan would accept a non-muslim as a MB, it would b sultan azlan shah, but…
honestly, if someone as wise n enlightened as the perak sultan is not even prepared to accept a non-muslim as a leader of the state/country, we really have a LOOOOONG way to go…
but by making a big fuss out of it, we now have TWO ‘racists’, the sultan n uncle lim.
wonder what Raja Nazrin would have done if it was him who picked the MB… sadly, my feeling is that despite his high minded rhetoric (like his dad’s), they r still – like LKS – ‘race-central’ (mayb a better word than ‘racist’) after all…
also,
LKS said that the MB from PAS was “…representing the third and smallest political party in the proposed coalition has not received the mandate of the CEC,”
hello??? DAP has NOT received the people’s mandate to govern either!!! (did not get 1/2 of the seats!!)
this kind of ‘majoritarian’ argument will NOT work in favour of the minorities, mind u. if we still think along the line of majority-minority, the minorities would not b able to share ANY political power. therefore, it’s not in the minority’s interest to think along those lines.
sometimes we win, sometimes we lose, n sometimes OUR FRIENDS win, n sometimes OUR ENEMIES win. that’s life. i’m prepared to accept it even though it’s PAS.
i hope the opposition do not screw up the one n only chance to prove that they r ELECTABLE. but meanwhile, the more bickering like this happens the more it would prove that my distrust of the opposition was fully justified… hehe…
66 aku 13 March 2008 @ 9:29 pm
if DAP still hv any honor left, just break all ties with PAS one and for all. don’t pretend to work together during election just to gain few malay support, then acting like this afterward. DAP done this kind of thing over and over again. it seems DAP more interested in shorterm obj. as long as this old man around i’d never trust DAP again.
67 oster 13 March 2008 @ 9:57 pm
@lucia
1) I’m not sure, but Kedah’s PAS has hinted of a position for the DAP man
2) & 3) We cannot just look at the numbers without looking at the wider context. Remember when a local authority decided to demolish a Hindu temple based purely on the laws but without regard to the wider context of things?
Well sure, the constitution is skewed racially, and one day it should be changed. But let’s be realistic, not today, not immediately.
DAP has a fine opportunity in three states to prove that a Malaysian Malaysia concept can work. It should go about doing that first before taking action on matters that require people’s trust in that concept.
cheers
68 ahmoy 13 March 2008 @ 10:42 pm
“a person should be chosen for the post based on his calibre/characteristics not on his race!”
so why in the hell this stupid LKS cannot accept MB from PAS?
this stupid LKS thought Perak people voted solely for DAP but actually our vote is for Barisan Rakyat!!!
69 Eric Chin 14 March 2008 @ 12:04 am
The son has rescinded the father’s directive, as it should be. However, the whole episode has left a bad taste in the mouth. The DAP had better make amends for this faux pas. DAP must realize that the Chinese are different now. They are inclusive and will stand by their friends of other races. What separates us are the result of machinations of the BN. We must not allow that to happen in Perak.
70 goldenscreen 14 March 2008 @ 12:13 am
Here’s an account of what happened in Perak from http://matsamankati.blogspot.com/
Aku cepat-cepat pergi pekan Kuale bila dengar ada kecoh. Sampai kat bulatan Jam Besar, jalan masuk ke Bukit Chandan ditutup.Lebih kurang 500 orang berkumpul kat Jam Besar, kebanyakannya reporter. Aku terus pergi kat Tebing Sungai dan tiba-tiba ada sekumpulan manusia kepala botak mula lari berkeliaran. Rupa-rupanya geng Pekida sudah bersedia untuk buat kacau. Tapi tak ramai, lebih kurang 30-40 orang.
Salah seorang daripada mereka cuba cari pasal dengan seorang pegawai polis tetapi dapat dikawal oleh polis Kuala Kangsar.
4.20pm: Geng Pekida mendapat ‘arahan’ supaya beredar dan ‘berkumpul dirumah MB”. MB mana aku pun tak tahu.
4.30pm: Reporter mendapat maklumat, upacara angkat sumpah ditangguhkan.
5.00pm: Line Clear. Kuala Kangsar kembali normal.
Sana sini aku dengar, masing-masing menyalahkan DAP, tapi bila aku tanya kat seorang Ketua Bahagian PKR, lain pulak ceritanya. Punca sebenar adalah bakal MB Perak sendiri: Nizar Jamaludin.
Hari Ahad lalu, selepas keputusan rasmi dikeluarkan, Pas, PKR dan DAP telah bermesyuarat dan DAP telah memberi laluan kepada PKR untuk menjadi MB, tapi PAS tak bersetuju. Sebaliknya Pas telah mencadangkan Nizar menjadi MB. PKR pula ketiadaan calon yang layak dari sudut akademik untuk menjadi MB dan bersetuju memberi laluan kepada Pas, tapi DAP pulak tak bersetuju.
Akhirnya, satu formula dicadangkan, Nizar jadi MB, DAP jadi TMB 1, dan PKR TMB 2. EXCO pulak, DAP 6, PKR 2, PAS 2. Walaupun formula ini nampak merugikan kepada PKR, tapi PKR menerimanya, tapi DAP pulak tak suka. Kerana memberikan kelebihan kepada PAS. Lalu Kit Siang mengugut nak boikot.
Bila Kit Siang buat statement, Nizar ketaq lutut, takut-takut jawatan MB terlepas. Dalam-diam-diam, dia buat agreement dengan DAP. Jawatan EXCO, dia bagi DAP 8, PKR 1, PAS 1. Nizar buat seolah-olah dia dah jadi MB dan buat keputusan sendiri, tanpa merujuk kepada PAS Perak dan PKR Perak.
Bila senarai EXCO disediakan untuk upacara angkat sumpah, PKR terkejut bila kerusi EXCO tinggal satu! Itu sebab Syed Husin buat kenyataan bahawa PKR menarik diri dari pentadbiran Perak, kerana ditikam oleh Nizar dari belakang.
Sekejap tadi, Anwar terpaksa turun keIpoh dan berbincang dengan Raja Nazrin. Setakat yang aku tahu, semua sudah selesai tetapi tak sempat untuk sampai diKuala Kangsar untuk Upacara angkat sumpah. Apa yang selesai, tunggulah malam ni.
71 Frank 14 March 2008 @ 1:01 am
Aisehman
If DAP CEC is behaving like this, then the ROCKET should be broken up. Voters should think twice about letting it to run the Govt in Penang or giving the votes in the next election.
Disappointment is an understatement.
I almost break my own standards to use the 4-letter word at DAP CEC and LKS.
DAP CEC must apologise to the Sultan, not just LKS.
http://malaysianunplug.blogspot.com/2008/03/bad-start-to-opposition-government-lim.html
72 Jake 14 March 2008 @ 3:31 am
I guess everyone should read Raja Petra’s analysis.
So PAS Perak jumped the gun. The PAS central leadership bit their lips and allowed the ‘transgression’ to pass. PKR too, in the spirit of comradeship, decided to say nothing lest it upset the delicate partnership that was in the midst of being formed and had yet to take off.
PAS jumped the gun before the announcement by HRH Raja Nazrin. So in essence, both parties are caught off guard. Not to mention these are crucial days, everything is in a state of flux and ever-changing. So I can emphatise with the state of mind of those who’s directly involved.
Has anyone of you been caught in an ever changing web, where everything you should do depends on everything else that has not happened ?
Also, reading Tony Pua’s opinion, an MB holds immense power in a state, therefore, starting off on a right footing is crucial.
It should be noted that the MB holds immense power in the state and if the ground rules aren’t cut properly, then we will all suffer for the next four years.
I guess we have to see how it plays out. 50 years of mental conditioning is a hard thing to break overnight.
What we had on March 8 2008 is a revolution, of sorts and with all revolution you need time to let the dust settles.
We’re all human and the mind can only comprehend so much change in a day, but what is crucial here is the breakaway from racial politics, accountability and transparency in governance.
73 man on the street 14 March 2008 @ 10:03 am
sdr. goldenscreen
Nizar belum jadi MB dah pandai main tikam pulak.
74 Soh hai Lah 14 March 2008 @ 10:09 am
Come on guys. All of us who commented here are adults with mature thinking….i supposed. Let’s not get too emotional. Sit back take a deep breath and ponder again.
95% of us here wanted a change whether we like DAP, PKR or PAS. We went against our normal choice BN this time around. We had to convince our fellow comrades to vote for a change. And we did it successfully.
The issue here again….
1. LKS only voiced out that PAS being the minority shldnt be given the MB post which to me is correct correct correct.
2. He erred when he issued a boycott statement but he already apologised.
3. He wasnt anti-malay as he suggested that PKR guy shld be MB instead.
So let’s not drag racial issue into this as it will surely hurt what we built these past few months as we fellow Msians worked for a better future.
If the Sultan can accept LKS’s apology, why cant we?
Dont let BN gain a foothold of this situation. They are watching our every move and action. We must show solidarity lest the enemy will gobble us up without us knowing.
Give DAP, PKR and PAS a chance to work thigns out. Obviously this MB post wasnt discussed thoroughly before the GE cos no one in their right mind would have thot this could happen…..ie winning 5 states!
75 Fred 14 March 2008 @ 4:37 pm
Aisehman,
I think we should say WTF to his son too.
Even before the guy has warmed his new CM’s seat he has already put his foot in his mouth.
Why-The-F does he need to give his take on the touchy NEP issue at this stage even before he has warmed his CM seat. What is the urgency to do this especially when the other side (read UMNO) is still smarting from their loss and their fed media is prowling to exploit the slightest mistep to run down the new state govt.
LGE may have his private views of the NEP but once he becomes the CM of Penang he represents all race’s interests and must be sensitive to this fact or else he should not take the post.
If, as he says his main fight is against corruption and cronyism then address them accordingly. One would have expected him to be smart enough to see that all this while it is not the NEP itself that breeds corruption and cronyism but the way it has been administered and abused by the people in power to enrich themselves. Many among the malay masses are also against this longterm abuse and that is why they have turned to the Alternative in the hope that they may at last, through fair and just management, see some of the benefits for their future generation through the spirit of the NEP.
To tell the Penang malays, including those who supported the Alternative and without whom he will never smell the CM seat, that their status as per the Constitution may not be respected by the state government is to snub their support and definitely no way to start his new role as a CM for all.
However much he may deny it, this is what is implied and will be interpreted as such by the other side to work up an anti-Alternative govt. sentiment among the Penang malays. So just like that and even before they can get down to business of running the state, the other parties of this loose coalition, not to mention the malay Penang Deputy CM, loses its credibility among the malays.
I am really disappointed with this guy especially his sense of timing of his political utterances. After all saying the right things at the right time is what makes a great politician. Looks like LGE is not going to be one. Cheers.
76 atan 14 March 2008 @ 8:16 pm
Aisehman, you are fucking right.
I totally agree with you.
Whats wrong with a PAS MB???
Look at what KSK of Gerakan had done to Penang?
Do not create any opportunity allowing the BN to kick your ass in return.
77 amon 20 March 2008 @ 12:50 am
hmm..
dua-dua pun sama sahaja..
tak undi dia,bn dapat.
dah diundi, buat kucar..
pening,pening ..
entahlah……
78 Melayu Boleh 20 April 2009 @ 3:30 pm
orang melayu kena bersatu, baru kita boleh berjaya.melayu boleh.sapa kata tak boleh.
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